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[综合] 有些小问题想请教各位老大一下

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发表于 2010-11-10 17:07 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
在EP02里 就是那个给共和国订购克隆人军队的西弗提大师的身世如何,一直没看到过,他为何如此秘密的给共和国定下克隆人大军,他是不是也是达斯·西迪厄斯手下的人。

还有就是詹戈。菲特是克隆人的原型,貌似一直在卡米诺做克隆人士兵的教官,可是为什么看到欧比旺就两个人开打起来了呢,照说这批克隆人是给共和国订购的啊,怎么说两个人也是一个阵营的。

麻烦坛里各位大大给解释一下

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发表于 2010-11-10 17:28 | 显示全部楼层
1# ethanqym
明显你没有注意观察,菲特是受雇于杜库伯爵的,所以他知道欧比旺来者不善
You have hate,you have anger,but you don't use them!

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-10 17:31 | 显示全部楼层
刚才再去看了一下 发现的确以前自己没注意,应该是杜库伯爵以西弗提大师的名义订购了克隆人军队。这样就好解释了。

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发表于 2010-11-10 17:34 | 显示全部楼层
Sifo大师是名绝地,跟Sidious没关系;被Dooku杀死之后,Dooku冒他的名订了克隆人大军。
Jango么,如楼上所说,他是Dooku的人,具体自己可以去阅读一下小说。
还有,Jango主要工作是作为母体被克隆,而不是做教官。他好像只教了早期的ARC士兵。
Query: Who do you want to kill, master?

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-10 18:21 | 显示全部楼层
谢谢楼上了

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发表于 2010-11-10 18:52 | 显示全部楼层
Sifo乃是投名状
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

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发表于 2010-11-10 19:01 | 显示全部楼层
我咋记得Sifo大师是被骗了 所以去订的克隆人 而不是dooku冒名订购的 难道记错了 果断回去补课

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发表于 2010-11-10 19:39 | 显示全部楼层
论坛里好像很早就说过这两个问题了,一切都是杜库伯爵干的坏事!

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发表于 2010-11-10 21:00 | 显示全部楼层
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不是被骗,是他自己去联系供应商的。西迪厄斯知道这个消息之后,觉得这个军队可以利用,但是要瞒着绝地,于是就派杜库把Sifo-Dyas杀了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-11-10 22:04 | 显示全部楼层
具体在哪本小说里面有啊

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发表于 2010-11-10 22:30 | 显示全部楼层
不要之盯着小说啊,也有可能是漫画里的
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

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发表于 2010-11-10 22:52 | 显示全部楼层
漫画可能也有相关线索,不过我看的是小说《邪恶迷宫》Labyrinth of Evil。相关段落如下:
1 尤达和欧比万对Sifo-Dyas的讨论和猜测
"Close friends they were. Bound together by the unifying Force. But worried about Master Dooku, Sifo-Dyas was. Worried about his disenchantment with the Republic; about self-absorption among the Jedi. Saw in Dooku the effect of Qui-Gon's death, Sifo-Dyas did. The effect that resurfaced the Sith had." Yoda shook his head mournfully. "Knew of Dooku's imminent departure, Master Sifo-Dyas did. Sensed, he may have, the birth of the Separatist movement."

"And yet the Council dismissed Dooku as an idealist," Obi-Wan said.

Yoda gazed at the floor. "Saw with my own eyes what he had become, and refused to believe it, I did."

"But how could Dooku have searched out Sidious? Or was it the other way around?"

"Impossible to know. But accept Sidious as a mentor Dooku did."

"Could Sifo-Dyas have foreseen that, as well?"

"Also impossible to know. Believed he might have, that Sidious Dooku would hunt down. To destroy."

"Could that have motivated Dooku to leave the Order?"

"Perhaps. But by the power of the dark side, even the most steadfast heart can be seduced."

Obi-Wan turned to face Yoda. "Master, did Sifo-Dyas order the clone army?"

Yoda nodded. "Contacted the Kaminoans, he did."

"Without your knowledge?"

"Without it, yes. But exists, a record of his initial contact."

Obi-Wan gave in to some of his frustration. "I should have questioned Lama Su more extensively."

"Questioned, the Kaminoans were. Furnished much they did."

"Did they?" Obi-Wan said in surprise. "When?"

"Reticent they were when first to Kamino I went. Only what already they had told you, I heard. That Sifo-Dyas the order placed; that Tyranus the donor clone furnished. That for the Republic the clones were. Seen by the Kaminoans, neither Sifo-Dyas nor Tyranus was. But later, after attacked Kamino was, more I learned from Taun We and Ko Sai. About the payments."

"From Sifo-Dyas?"

"From Tyranus."

"Could Tyranus have been an alias for Sifo-Dyas? Could he have adopted the name to provide deniability for the Jedi in case the clone army was discovered?"

"Wished for that I did. But killed Sifo-Dyas was, before on Kamino Jango Fett arrived."

"Murdered?"

Yoda compressed his thin lips. "Unsolved the crime remains, but, yes: murdered."

"Someone knew," Obi-Wan said, more to himself. "Dooku?" he asked Yoda.

"A theory I have—nothing more. Murder, Dooku committed. Then, from the Jedi archives erased Kamino, he did. Of that tampering, proof Master Jocasta Nu found—proof of Dooku's action, though well concealed it was."

Obi-Wan recalled his visit to the archives to search out the location of Kamino, only to be told by Jocasta Nu that the planetary system didn't exist. What had caused him that day three years earlier to stare so intently at the library's bronzium bust of Count Dooku?

"Nevertheless, the clone army continued to be financed and built," he said at last. "Could Sifo-Dyas and Tyranus have been partners?"

"Of our ignorance, another example this is. But playing both sides Jango Fett clearly was. By someone on the side of the Republic, chosen he was on Bogg Four to be the clone template. But serving Dooku he was, as a hired killer. With the changeling who targeted Amidala, an intermediary he was."

Obi-Wan pictured Fett in the execution arena on Geonosis, standing behind Dooku in a box reserved for dignitaries. "He had knowledge of both armies. Could he have killed Sifo-Dyas?"

"Perhaps."

"Were you able to trace the source of the payments—beyond Tyranus, I mean?"

"From Bogg Four into a maze of deception, they led."

"Did the Kaminoans say whether anyone had tried to persuade them not to build the army?"

"Intercede, none did. Reveal themselves too soon, our enemies would have."

"So Dooku had no choice but to create an army before the clones were trained and ready."

"Appears that way, it does."

Obi-Wan fell silent for a moment.

2 杜库的自述(斜体为原文自有)
One of your former confidants at the Jedi Temple has perceived the coming change, Sidious had told him. This one has contacted a group of cloners, regarding the creation of an army for the Republic. The order for the army can stand, for we will be able to make use of that army someday. But Master Sifo-Dyas cannot stand, for the Jedi cannot learn about the army until we are prepared to have them learn of it.

And so with the murder of Sifo-Dyas, Dooku had embraced the dark side fully, and Sidious had conferred on him the title Darth Tyranus. His final act before leaving the Jedi Order was to erase all mentions of Kamino from the Jedi archives. Then, as Tyranus, he had found Fett on Bogg 4; had instructed the Mandalorian to deliver himself to Kamino; and had arranged for payments to be made to the cloners through circuitous routes…

Ten years passed.

Under its new Supreme Chancellor, the Republic recovered somewhat, then grew more corrupt and beset with problems than before. As best they could, Sidious and Tyranus helped things along.

Sidious had the ability to see deep into the future, but there was always the unexpected. With the power of the dark side, however, came flexibility.

Having traced Fett to Kamino, Obi-Wan Kenobi had turned up on Geonosis. All at once, here was Qui-Gon Jinn's former Padawan, right under Dooku's nose. But when he had informed Sidious of Obi-Wan's presence, Sidious had only said, Allow events to play out, Darth Tyranus. For our plans are unfolding exactly as I have foreseen. The Force is very much with us.
Never  again  will  a  citizen  of  this  galaxy  watch  a  moonrise  in  quite  the  same  way.  He  will  stare  at  that  moon,  and  remember  that  the  Empire  is  firmly  in  control. ----Grand  Moff  Tarkin

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